Rick Warren on Syria: 'A moderate country'

WorldNetDaily

November 26, 2006

I am much obliged to Bruce Delay, a talk-show host at KFAQ 1170 in Tulsa, Oklahoma, for downloading the audio version of Rick Warren's YouTube video, recorded while in Syria.

Now, keep in mind, Warren has been telling the world he was misquoted by the Syrian press when he extolled the virtues of the totalitarian police state.

But before anyone questioned his statements, Warren's Saddleback Church had recorded him as he strolled down a Damascus street explaining what a peaceful and tolerant place Syria really is.

As soon as I hotlinked to the YouTube video last week and questioned Rick Warren about it, the church yanked it. I didn't have time to download a copy, but, thankfully, one johnny-on-the-spot talk-show host did.

You may not be able to see it, but you can at least hear it. Here is a word-for-word transcript of what Warren said in the 50-second video:

"Syria's a place that has Muslims and Christians living together for 1,400 years. So it's a lot more peaceful, honestly, than a lot of other places because Christians were here first.

"In fact, you know Saul of Tarsus Saul was a Syrian. {Correction: Paul was a Roman] St. Paul, on the road to Damascus, had his conversion experience and so Christians have been here the longest, and they get along with the Muslims and the Muslims get along with them. There's a lot less tension than in other places.

"It's a moderate country, and the official government rule and position is not to allow any extremism of any kind."

This is what Rick Warren said about Syria. You can hear him with your own ears:

Click here to hear the audio

It's not a press release from the Syrian government that Rick Warren can deny. He didn't make these remarks under duress. He spoke these words of his own free will. By the way, this audio clip is not taken out of context. It represents the entire content of what Rick Warren and his team produced, posted on YouTube, then removed once I linked to it and questioned him about it in an e-mail.

It's not a case of someone twisting his words. Rather, it's a case of twisted ideas expressed in words. [far more twisted than Joseph Farah reveals.  The sole Supreme Authority of all true Christians (the New Testament) proves how twisted; given below]

Let's analyze this statement carefully.

When Warren suggests Christians were in Syria first, he's certainly forgetting the progenitor of monotheism Judaism. He rightly claims Saul as a Syrian.  But Saul was not a Christian. He was a Jew until that Damascus road conversion. It's not a technicality. It is more than worth noting that someone who praises Syria, one of the most viciously anti-Semitic regimes in the world, claims Christians, not Jews, were there first.

Is Rick Warren a 'master' of Christianity?  [you be the judge]

Act 21:39 But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city: and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak unto the people.

Cilicia was a city of Armenia, a non-Muslim region at the time of Paul, known today as Turkey. Turkish officials don't like to talk about this subject. Mentioning the Armenian genocide in Turkey can lead to criminal prosecution. {this massacre took place around the year 1915 - some articles claim one and half million Armenians were slaughtered]

Act 23:6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men and brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.

Paul was also a Roman:

Act 22:27 Then the chief captain came, and said unto him [Paul], Tell me, art thou a Roman? He said, Yea.

It was written: Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. All things set aside - who could possibly have a problem with that teaching? if everyone were keeping that Command - it would bring peace to the whole world. No?]

Then Warren moves into this Muslim-Christian brotherhood sophistry. [there is no such thing. BOTH - the Bible and the Koran say so] The only way Christians get along with Muslims in an officially Muslim country is by accepting the role in Islam known as "dhimmi." Think of the dhimmi life as religious apartheid. It's a good analogy. Christians are not free to evangelize Muslims. In a civil dispute between a Muslim and a Christian, the Christian's word is worth less than nothing.

Rick Warren demonstrates his complete ignorance of the subtle repression Christians face in the role of dhimmi. Perhaps he hasn't been briefed on the phenomenon by the Council on Foreign Relations, from which he claims his expertise on the Middle East.

True experts would point out that the allah of the Koran never even mentioned the name Palestine [a simple fact]. The name Israel is mentioned - but not the name Palestine.

And so, upon what Holy Supreme Authority do Muslims demand that the name Israel be no more remembered? for establishing the name Palestine? If they say "Allah" - they are liars.

Where are all of the 'experts' at?

Again, Warren neglects even to mention the Jews the pathetically small community of Jews in Syria who have historically been subjected to barbaric pogroms to keep its members in line and to give the average Syrian Muslim an artificial feeling of superiority.

Less tension? Let me explain how Warren's buddy, dictator Bashar Assad, manages to keep peace and tranquility. Secret police. Wiretapping. Torture. Political prisoners. Death squads.

Bashar's father, Hafez, was the master at heavy-handed Big Brother tactics. When the citizens of Hama rose up to challenge his authority in February 1982, Assad sent in Syrian troops to massacre between 10,000 and 25,000 civilians. The town was paved over and marked permanently to ensure that others would learn the terrible lesson.

It worked. There's been "peace," as Rick Warren would call it, ever since. There's been a lot less "tension," as he would put it.

Lastly, Rick Warren says: "It's a moderate country, and the official government rule and position is not to allow any extremism of any kind."

Where does one even begin answering such a lie?

True, the Assads simply crush any extremism that threatens their tyrannical rule. But Syria plays ball with the terrorists by allowing them to use Syria and neighboring Lebanon as staging grounds under the proviso they do not subvert the Assad regime. That's why Syria serves as the headquarters for more terrorist organizations than any other country in the world yet experiences little of its own.

My goal is not to beat a dead horse with Rick Warren's trip to Syria. My goal is to bring understanding and truth to an issue that has been perversely distorted by Rick Warren.

It is mind-blowing to witness how deeply the image of the Word of God has been marred....even in these days with knowledge being vastly increased. Even though God warned us about it - it is still amazing to see just how bad it is. It is in biblical proportions.

And I have to note that Rick Warren has been deceitful about the nature of this trip and the content of his statements from the beginning. Last week, after I first challenged him about the trip, he denied making any statements like this. He claimed his words were misrepresented by the Syrian government. When I asked him if he made any recordings while there that could help clear his name, he said he did not.

Yet, not only did he indeed record something, but what he recorded affirms the essence of what the Syrian government claimed Warren told officials. Warren's church posted that recording on YouTube and pulled it down only after it was cited as evidence of his mischievous activities in Syria.

In other words, Rick Warren seems to want to be everything to everyone. He seems to want to please the whole world {SEE} Jam 4:4 ] everyone, that is, except the voiceless victims of tyranny, anti-Christian persecution and anti-Jewish bigotry in Syria. .... (A man's enemies are of his own house - but a stranger - they will not listen to, nor follow) To the law and to the testimony: if they [including Rick Warren] speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them.

Why preach peace in the name of Christianity to those who deny the Son? The Judgment of God was already given.

No human is aloud to say anyone is condemned. But, neither is any human aloud to say anyone is saved....not even the apostles:

Rom 10:6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? that is, to bring Christ down from above:

Rom 10:7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach

[We are not aloud to use our own words to claim that anyone is damned - - - or saved. That Judgment belongs to God - not men]

Mat 16:28 Verily I [Jesus] say unto you, There be some standing here [of the 12 apostles], which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.  

Luk 4:4 It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

 

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If Rick Warren, a ''master'' of Christianity were a True Christian - he'd be 'singing' the song of Moses:

Rev 15:3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God

In the song of Moses - Palestine is condemned:

Exd 15:14 The people shall hear, and be afraid: sorrow shall take hold on the inhabitants of Palestina.

And because God says....

Deu 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

Here's two more witnesses concerning Palestine's fate:

Joe 3:4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine?

Isa 14:31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.

 

Jer 16:14 Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that it shall no more be said, }}}  The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

Jer 16:15 But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north

Mat 12:30 He that is not with Me - is against Me. There is no in-between

Do you hear Rick Warren speaking these Scriptures? He speaks his own words - lots of them - but what about the Scriptures that he claims to be a representative of?

1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, }}} that denieth the Father and the Son. [Muhammad - one lone accuser - the prophet of Islam and the religion of Syria - denies the Father and the Son {anyone not knowing this by now - is WAAAY behind - in understanding the hypocrisy that is revealed regularly by the self-proclaiming 'masters' of modern so called 'Christianity' worldwide]

Syria lives by the Koran:

In the Koran...

009.030 The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; in this they but imitate what '''the unbelievers'''  of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! {With that being said - everyone can see who '''the unbelievers''' are - according to Islam.

037.151 Is it not that they say, from their own invention,

 

037.152 Allah has begotten children? but they are liars! {thereby calling all of the eye-witnesses of Christ....liars

 

019.089 Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

 

 

Muhammad calls all of the eyewitnesses of Christ liars....

1Jo 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life

1) Matthew

2) Mark

3) Luke

4) John

5) Paul  Paul

6) James

7) Jude

 

Accepting the lie that there is such a thing as a 'moderate' Muslim only lends power to the religion that calls all of the eye-witnesses of Christ liars... by one lone accuser who also preaches these...

Beheadings - Gang Rape - Crucifixions - Genocide

[See for yourselves]

 

No True Christian can sit at the table of those who call the Son of God an abomination - AND - sit at the Son's table too.

1Cr 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

2Jo 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine [of Christ], RECEIVE HIM NOT into your house, neither bid him God speed

1Jo 2:27 But the anointing [The Word] which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

ye need not that any man teach you {Prophecy fulfilled - given by Jeremiah

Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

2Jo 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. {{{ this Judgment was already given. Who can change it?]

 

Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands

Hbr 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

Hbr 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, [once and for all] whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; [no self-proclaiming 'Christian' has more Authority than the New Testament]

 

Jhn 8:31 If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;

Jhn 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. [from the 'masters' of this world]

Isa 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail [did God lie?]

 

Blessed are the peace-makers. They make peace with God. Jhn 16:11 because the prince of this world is judged. Eph 2:2 according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit [Word] of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Jhn 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God [death] abideth on him. {{{ Let Rick Warren stand on the streets of Syria  to boldly proclaim  that which he claims to be a representative of - that is - if he really and truly is a Christian like he says he is. How long do you believe he would get away with such a public statement in Syria? [you be the judge]

To claim that Muslims and Christians can live in harmony - is one of the biggest lies ever told to this world. Mixing the two is a sure recipe for great bloodshed.  False 'Christians' will strike back.

Mar 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.

But woe to the voices who paved the way for the bloodshed:

Jhn 19:11 Jesus answered, Thou [Pilate] couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.

 

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light [life] in them.

Eph 4:25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour