Aziz argues the Koran with Muslim judge

July 16
Cindy Wockner in Denpasar, Bali 

The Truth about the Koran from a True Muslim:

BALI bombing field commander Abdul Aziz was incensed by a Muslim judge's suggestion yesterday that Islam and its holy book the Koran had never advocated killings or deaths in the name of religion.

Giving evidence in his own defence at his terrorism trial, the 33-year-old, Aziz (aka Imam Samudra) engaged in a tense exchange with the sole Muslim judge on the five-judge panel, who questioned him about Islamic teachings.

A clearly annoyed Aziz pointed at the judge and raised his voice to emphasise his point: "More than 28 verses in the Koran and 28 letters mention a war."

But Judge Supratman reminded Aziz he should act properly in court.

Earlier, Aziz had reprimanded the judge, telling him it was improper to quote only part of a Koran verse referring to tolerance.   [a common practice]

He told the court Islam taught about peace and love, about good character and honesty but if one part of the Muslim body was in the pain so too was the rest.

He said he would only forgive Kafir (infidels) if they were sorry for the hundreds of thousands of Muslims slaughtered around the world.

Judge Supratman interrupted, telling him the Bule (westerners) he saw in the Sari nightclub were not involved in any slaughter of Muslims in Afghanistan.

Aziz claimed that before the October 12 Bali bombing, which killed 202 people, he had watched the Sari nightclub and what he had seen was "disgusting" – drunk westerners engaging in "maksiat" or sinful behaviour.

Reminded by Judge Supratman that "our Muslim brothers" had worked there to make money for their families and that Muslims had died, burnt in their cars, Aziz claimed the death of Muslims was an "error" which Allah would forgive.

Quoting a verse of the Koran which advocated respect for other religions, Judge Arif Supratman suggested to Aziz that "Allah never ordered any people to be killed".

008.065 O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight

009.005 fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them

002.191 Slay them wherever ye catch them

005.033 The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger [who also commands his followers, that when they 'go abroad' 004.094  to take no prisoners until after they 'subdue the land' 008.067 ], and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides

009.029 Fight those who believe not in Allah

002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you

002.193 And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah

061.004 Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause

The judge who is judging this case, claims to be a Muslim.  Which one is telling the truth? The one on trial---or the judge?

The Muslim who is being put to death, was only carrying out the commands of the god of that Muslim judge.

Terrorism is against the will of God:

Council of Islamic Scholars

Leading clerics in Saudi Arabia have issued a religious ruling, or fatwa, that acts of terrorism by Islamic extremists are serious criminals acts which are against the will of God.

As the BBC reports, the ruling confronts the Islamic doctrine of jihad, which has been used by extremists to justify their attacks.

In a statement, the Council of Islamic Scholars called acts of sabotage, like bombings and murder, dangerous crimes.

It said such actions were against Islamic or Sharia law and said people who claimed these actions were a form of Jihad, or Holy Struggle, were misguided and ignorant. 

Calling all Muslims: who's words are more powerful?  Men's words? or Allah's?  [We ALL know what that answer is....for True Muslims]

009.029 Fight those who believe not in Allah

002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you

002.191 Slay them wherever ye catch them

047.004 Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks. [Behead them]

It is the ''leading clerics'' who are "misguided and ignorant"  {that...

or they are knowingly..... absolute liars!

004.095 Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward.

002.216 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing [war] which is good for you, and that ye love a thing [Peace] which is bad for you?